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DESIGNER

vianthedesigner
2019-05-18

I see that many designers here have problems with stolen logo or design, etc. Well, I have not yet experienced that (I wish this will never happen to me, of course). I see that you guys whose the logo/design has been stolen can quickly figure it out where or even who stole your work.

I just want to know, how can we figure it out that our designs maybe already stolen by someone out there? I've no idea how the way to do it, and maybe someone out there has stolen my work too (who knows, right?)



DESIGNER
mk4gfx
2019-05-18

Hi @vian,
You can use yandex to search for your logos and do a google search for your most easily-traced logos. I found mine because i knew if any of my logos are gonna get stolen it will be this one, because it's easily traced and as suspected it was stolen. most thieves don't bother tracing detailed logos. Hope that helps :)



DESIGNER
eclipse42
2019-05-18

Easiest way is right click on logo image and click on search google for this image.
LG watermark makes it hard to find logo if it is stolen. Best way to find it, is to use image that has no watermark, so upload original logo image to google images and search that way.



DESIGNER
kassymkulov
2019-05-18

Your logos certainly have been stolen, it's impossible for them to be not stolen. Any designer can redraw them and offer to their clients. If it is an advanced country then maybe you can track it (provided that the company has an online presence). But there are some developing countries, designers of which steal work everyday and there's no way of knowing that.

Yandex is far better than Google when it comes to image search. I suggest you use it every time you upload logo here because someone else might've already come up with the idea.
The results are better when you search as a black and white logo.



DESIGNER
korzuen
2019-05-18

@delins yup, from my limited experience, places like this is like heaven for designers who steal other people works and submit it into a logo design contest.

You can use reverse image search to see if any of your logo has been stolen. I prefer Yandex than google or Tineye



DESIGNER
eclipse42
2019-05-18

When it comes to exact design trace I have far better result with google than yandex. In my experience yandex is good for similarities but not for exact match of design or a design with small addition, as Yandex provides way to many image results not related to the logo. I used Yandex to search for my logos and found shit to be honest. Over a year period and multiple search through google I found over 150 my logos being stolen. It is a lot of work and a lot of DMCA sent. I even had to ask for help through several forum posts on this matter.

Just to test it and to demonstrate it for You I searched for this logo through Yandex and found nothing: https://www.logoground.com/logo.php?id=73506

I searched for that same logo through google images and found this:
https://www.facebook.com/sushikafu/

If You don't see it right away here is a link of profile image, with my logo in lower part of image:
https://scontent.fsjj1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/54524761_272658556957255_9139796349846290432_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fsjj1-1.fna&oh=8ce76a6679c249d977ffe6cfaf0c8be0&oe=5D9EE624

For Copyright infringement Google search is way better than Yandex and I was made sure of it a thousand time, as I did a search for 1200 of my logos through the whole year.



DESIGNER
mk4gfx
2019-05-18

@eclipse, impressive! Google really found it by that little part in the picture... am gonna use it more often then.
I can't imagine how much work this must be for you and other designers with lots of logos :/



DESIGNER
korzuen
2019-05-18

@eclipse, that is very helpful. It is indeed impressive that google manage to find the similarities from a small part of the logo.



DESIGNER
misma
2019-05-22

Eclipse,

What do you do after you find the theft,
I have found this theft
https://eltamioz.com/image/f-letter-design-wallpaper/61/alphabet-letters-and-more-f-syllabary--firefighter-png-download-
for my logo:
https://www.logoground.com/logo.php?id=131821

But I can't find any reporting button or anything on the theft page



DESIGNER
eclipse42
2019-05-22

Hi @misma, I never really deal with those kind of sites as they are not selling the item and I think that not a lot of people visit those sites as they are hard to find. For example try typing eltamioz on google, you will get bunch of results that have nothing to do with that site as that site is hard to find. But in case you want to get the content removed you can trace their hosting provider. On a quick look I saw that they are hosted by cloudflare, but cloudflare is not really a hosting company but protection service to make it simple. If You send DMCA to cloudflare, they will forward that DMCA to original hosting provider and to a website owner.



DESIGNER
kassymkulov
2019-05-22

@misma
That's one hell of a copy, I wonder how they got it?
I doubt they redraw it from scratch.
Are you selling/showcasing this logo elsewhere without the logo ground watermark?



DESIGNER
korzuen
2019-05-22

There is a lot of shady website that put up a collections of logo for no reason at all. I usually did not bother to send them any email to take down the logo.

I do have a problem with instagram support. I sent them a report about someone is using my logo as their profile picture and they don't see any problem with it. This was their latest replies to me:
"Thanks for your response. For the reasons we previously stated, we're not in a position to act on your report.
If you haven’t already done so, you may wish to reach out to the party responsible for posting the content to resolve your issue with them directly."

I did not have any problem with Facebook though, they are fast and efficient in taking down anything I reported.



DESIGNER
eclipse42
2019-05-22

@ Korzuen this is how I send message to Instagram if it is profile picture in question:

Where it says: Please provide links (URLs) or broadcast IDs leading directly to the specific content you are reporting - write this:

I am reporting a profile picture of this user:
https://www.instagram.com/username/

I have no option to report a profile picture of an Instagram account, so I am reporting it this way.

Here is the url of profile image:
URL of image (Right click on profile picture > Copy image address).

On the place where it says:
Where can we see an authorized example of your work?:
Paste logoground link of the logo, and write this under that:

I own copyrights to that logo as it states under the logo. Reported user is using my logo without my permission and representing it as his company logo which violates my copyrights.

And don't forget to attach an image of your logo, same as on logoground with text and everything. For some reason when I don't attach image they sometimes ask for more evidence, but with image attached I never had an issue and they always removed pictures.



DESIGNER
korzuen
2019-05-22

@eclipse42 thanks man for the help. Good to know that attaching image play a big role, no wonder I got asked to provide more evidence everytime I reported something.



DESIGNER
Ortega Graphics
2019-05-24

@Korzuen, they said "For the reasons we previously stated", out of curiosity and for future reference, what was the exact reason that they previously stated? Thank you.



DESIGNER
korzuen
2019-05-24

@Ortega Graphics , here is what they said after they emailed me asking for more evidence

" Thanks for your report. Based on the information you have provided and context of the reported content, it is not clear to us that the reported content infringes your intellectual property rights. Specifically, we don’t understand the basis for your assertion that you own the copyright in the reported photo(s) or are otherwise in a position to submit this report."

I don't know if they misunderstood me or did I not phrase it correctly but I find it is easier and faster dealing with facebook although in instagram they clearly ask what you are reporting in the first place "Which of these best describes your original copyrighted work? : A logo I created"






DESIGNER
Ortega Graphics
2019-05-24

@Korzuen, I got the same exact response from Instagram several years ago. At that time, I used a free webmail email address to contact them. It seems that they thought they couldn't confirm that I was who I said I was. That is, anybody could create a webmail account and pretend to own the copyright of a particular logo. So, I forwarded their response to my official email address (the one that ends with my own domain name, which matches my username in various websites) and I replied again from that email address. They immediately removed the infringing image from Instagram. I know that others have reported that they have no trouble with free webmail email addresses (like Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, etc.), but apparently, at least in that particular case, having an official-looking email address was all that was needed for Instagram to take action.

Hope this helps,

Ortega Graphics



DESIGNER
korzuen
2019-05-24

@Ortega Graphics, Thanks for the help. That is one of the perks of having a formal business email address, they will take it more seriously, something that I plan on having in the future. I will send another report to instagram next week and I will give an update on what works. This is the first time I've done the reverse image search on all my logos and found out a bunch of them has been stolen in a sense they had kinda hire or pays someone else for it. So it is a bit of a hassle especially when they do not speak english and I had to use google translate and hope I said the right things.



DESIGNER
FuturaSan
2019-05-24

Strange, but with Instargam I had no problems with proving authorship. Also there was a recent case when a person decided to use my logo on his page (avatar). I just wrote a complaint (in their form) with links to my portfolio and LG. Responded quickly. Literally in 15 minutes my logo disappeared from his account. I do not think that the address of the mail can somehow influence this. Although.....



DESIGNER
vianthedesigner
2019-05-25

thank you guys for the answers, the design thievery things are really complicated to me (I've never done any research for my design that might be already stolen right now, though). But now it gave me a big picture of how to handle it.



DESIGNER
korzuen
2019-05-30

Update on copyright report: @eclipse42 advice works although a couple of time they still ask me to give more proof but they finally take down the stolen logo. Having send a couple of reports, I think it comes down to the person who process the report.

I found someone who steal a bunch of logo from logoground:

https://www.fiverr.com/teamkingsfits/create-you-premium-logo
https://dribbble.com/ConnorPSD


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