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DESIGNER

Perri
2017-05-26

[Edit: Post removed. Please refer to forum rules.]



ADMIN
ajleroux
2017-05-26

Hi Perri,

Welcome to LogoGround.

Forum rules state that commenting on the work of another designer isn't allowed, unless the designer invited comments. That of course applies to commenting on mine too :)

To answer your question, yes, I sell logos too. I'm a logo designer, like you. I wanted to build a site where I could sell my logos and I decided to open the doors to any designer who wants to join me. My (and LogoGround's) own logo sales pay for this site, as we take no commission from your sales. Neither my account nor any admin account receives preferential treatment. Never has.

We've always been upfront about selling our own logos here, but if you feel that we can be even more transparent, please let me know.



ADMIN
ajleroux
2017-05-26
Edited 2019-06-28 by ajleroux

Hi again Perri,

I deleted your new post as well. Simply re-posting a deleted post isn't a good idea. We won't like it better the second time around :)

If you feel that I give preferential treatment to my or LogoGround's own logos, please send me an email: [email removed] and we can discuss it further.

[Edit: Or, if you can produce evidence, then you can post it here in the forum.]



DESIGNER
Mack Studio
2017-05-26

Hello Ajleroux,

I saw all PERRI want to tell everyone the words, and I used to be a new designer.

I think she has encountered the situation, will make her misunderstanding.

Because Logoground.com has a high standard, the new designers can usually encounter a lot of logo, but you will all refuse or reject, because it may not be able to meet the standard, the most important thing is that you have a "subjective feeling" Although you have established a designer's ranking system to solve this problem, but this is not helpful to the new designer.

Her misunderstanding is that some members can submit logo directly, and the new designers will think it is unfair (Maybe).



DESIGNER
Mack Studio
2017-05-26

Hello Perri,

the admin and some you post on here account, they need to pay for web hosting, domain name fee etc .....
but we no need to pay for it, and this site is no member fee, so you will see not too much unfair ^^

Happy to join logoground.com.



ADMIN
ajleroux
2017-05-26

Thanks Mack Studio :)



ADMIN
LogoGround
2017-05-26

In response to the claim that LogoGround gives its own account and staff accounts preferential treatment.

Statistics on staff favorites:
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Designer with highest percentage of staff favorites: 58%
Average for top 10 designers (excluding LG accounts): 23.04%
AJleRoux account: 22.3%
LogoGround account: 22.1%

Avg for all designers: 12.06%
bizlogo account (not LG, but same parent company as LG): 1.1%
bizlogos account (not LG, but same parent company as LG): 10.2%

Number of logos in the top 100 Logos:
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designer A: 15 logos
designer B: 14 logos
designer C: 6 logos (ajleroux)
designer D: 6 logos
designer E: 6 logos (bizlogos)
designer F: 5 logos
designer G: 4 logos
designer H: 4 logos
designer I: 4 logos
designer J: 3 logos
designer K: 2 logos
designer L: 2 logos
designer M: 2 logos
designer N: 2 logos
designer O: 2 logos
designer P: 2 logos
designer Q: 2 logos
designer R: 2 logos

And 17 accounts that each have one logo in the top 100.

LogoGround's own account has no logos in the top 100.
bizlogo account has no logos in the top 100.

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Edit: The bizlogos account has since been renamed to Honoré to avoid confusion. In the interest of transparency it was renamed again in 2019 to "LG Staff". Logos that used to be in the "LogoGround" account were moved to the "LG Staff" account.



ADMIN
ajleroux
2017-05-26

> LogoGround's own account has no logos in the top 100.
That's a little depressing :)

The top 100 is a new development and we state clearly that it's a work in progress. It changes all the time as we refine the algorithm. But it is encouraging to see that 35 different designers are included. If it was dominated by the top 10 designers that would not be ideal.



ADMIN
LogoGround
2017-05-26

>That's a little depressing :)
lol :)

> some members can submit logo directly
Mack Studio, that is not correct. We use the same upload feature that designers use. It is important for us to use the same systems so that we can experience the same frustrations as designers and improve the systems over time.



DESIGNER
Perri
2017-05-26

Hey there,

Sorry for the disturbance. There was no accusations; I just wanted clarification and acknowledgement.

I guess it is a matter of perspective as well. It was my perception that those accounts had some preferential treatment. Maybe it was just that; a perception... as now shown by the provided numbers.

Admin, thank you for the breakdown of the top 100 logos and percentage of staff favorites. I bet many designers (old and new) will appreciate this information. This is more transparent than before.

Still, it is my opinion that the percentage of staff favoriting staff should be 0%, even if it is a free site. But that's just my opinion, I guess. You do what you want.

By the way, I did not comment on the actual work of any designer; I know it isn't allowed. On that basis, my initial post shouldn't have been deleted. But then again, it is your website and you can do whatever you want. Right?

Sincerely,

Perri



ADMIN
ajleroux
2017-05-26

> my initial post shouldn't have been deleted
Fair enough, your initial post did not comment on specific logos. Perhaps we should expand the rules a bit. Pointing out what you believe to be dishonesty should always be allowed on the forum, but must include at least some research/supporting evidence. Speculation is unproductive.

> the percentage of staff favoriting staff should be 0%
I can't agree that LogoGround accounts should have zero logos selected as staff favorites. That would be unfair. I think it is fair when the percentage of staff favorites are in proportion, relative to other designers with similar rankings on the site - and it is in proportion, as shown by the numbers.

Thanks for your input and good luck with your logo sales :)



DESIGNER
Perri
2017-05-26

Hey there,

Thank you for the healthy discussion and thank you for accepting my input. I am embarrassed that I jumped to conclusions with just the impression of a first look. My dad always said I was a jumpy girl.

By the way, you guys forgot Cartoon Ball in the statistics above. But I guess that account has similar numbers.

In any case, about the 0%, we can agree to disagree and that's okay.

You know what? The staff logos are diluted within a handful of accounts; to avoid giving the wrongful impression of preferential treatment, maybe you should dilute more by creating more staff accounts, then the average would be closer to the real average of all designers: 12.06% LOL (just kidding, of course)

On an unrelated side-note, you ignored my email about a week ago about the pets collection: owls, koalas, dinosaurs, turkeys and wild fish are normally not considered pets! That collection should be manually revised (or the title changed).

Thanks again.

Sincerely,

Perri



ADMIN
ajleroux
2017-05-26

Hi Perri,

You've never had a pet dinosaur? ;)
Thanks for your input regarding the pet logos collection. You're right, it needs work. We are working on the algorithm and search engine that selects and sorts the logos.



ADMIN
LogoGround
2017-05-27

The cartoonball account is very small and hasn't been updated in over a year, so I did not check it initially. It has low rankings, one logo in the top 100 and a higher staff favorites percentage than average. I have unselected some of them to bring the ratio more in line with the average.

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Edit: The cartoonball account has now been merged with the ajleroux account to avoid confusion.


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